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October 12th, 2004
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Whose truth?
Unbiased information. Isn't that what everyone who gives a shit craves? I'm tellin' ya, that's what I crave these days. What one has to do most often in the search for truth is hear all sides and then come up with a personal version of the truth... one that seems most right... and hope it floats.

I'm not saying you still don't have to do that, but wouldn't it be nice if you had a place to go that'd give you the straight skinny on all those claims made by our two candidates (and others)? A place that would cut through all the rhetoric, all the bullshit, and tell you who's lying, who's exaggerating, and how they're trying to deceive you?

There are several places like that, but I just found out about the following site... and it looks pretty good. It paints a disturbing picture of our candidate's affinity for the truth.

Fast and loose with the facts.

They can do better. They should do better. Perhaps if more sites like

factcheck.org


start to dominate the cyber landscape then the politicos will be a little more wary of getting loosey goosey with the truth!

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From:stefestella
Date:October 12th, 2004 08:03 pm (UTC)
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Thanks for posting that link. *bookmarks for after-work perusal*
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From:saurons_truss
Date:October 12th, 2004 08:09 pm (UTC)
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My pleasure!
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From:saurons_truss
Date:October 12th, 2004 10:19 pm (UTC)

Re: *giggle*

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No kidding!

Almost funnier even than Al Gore claiming he CREATED the internet. Thats' gotta take the prize.

I like this site (factcheck.org). At first and second glance it seems to be an equal opportunity "Call Out On The Carpet-er".
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From:whymzycal
Date:October 12th, 2004 10:29 pm (UTC)
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Exxxxcellent! I shall have a look later, Truss, and thanks for posting this!
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From:seethrumind
Date:October 13th, 2004 08:35 pm (UTC)

FAIR

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Facts should come first, and we should be able to rely on our media as a source for facts. I believe our traditional media, broadcast and print, have really let us down. They treat opinion as fact. Their editors are gullible and don't insist on verification. Financial pressures and owner prejudice also prevent the traditional media from devoting enough energy or resources to important issues.

I am grateful for the bloggers; they are my best source for information. When I first started reading blogs, I remember reading this phrase a lot--"I will fact check your ass." :-) The beauty of blogs as an information source is that it's harder to hide inaccuracies or bias. If the blogger is wrong, and the issue important, other bloggers or readers will jump on the story, often violently. Bloggers usually declare their political allegiance. They don't believe in hiding it. Why should they? Let the reader know the lean. Bloggers follow a story, stick with it, and out the truth. Truth matters to bloggers.

FT

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From:saurons_truss
Date:October 13th, 2004 08:59 pm (UTC)

Re: FAIR

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Of course you're speaking of a certain subset of bloggers... the ones who pioneered blogging and those now who follow in those footsteps (on-the-scene-journalists, pundits, motivated amateurs, etc).

There's not much truth to be found in the Do Me In The Kiester blog community I think...

(Not that I go there. heh!)
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From:seethrumind
Date:October 13th, 2004 10:50 pm (UTC)

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The blogsphere is indeed a rough and rowdy place. I heard an NPR commentator (Bob Edwards I think) compare blogs to the Revolutionary war era press, especially the pamphleteers. Less beholden to any powers that be, more free, with a lot of unchecked passion.

I hope good bloggers aren't limited to the pioneers. Why should that be true? It's still an open media, no reason why it can't grow and a lot of reason why it should. I look forward to reading a lot more foreign blogs. From India, China, Russia, Iraq. During the Iraq war, I followed a Ukrainian blogger who translated Russian military radio broadcasts into English. One brave Baghdad blogger was online for awhile until his internet service was cut off.

I agree with you that a lot of blogs are worthless but even the rough guys can contribute something occasionally, especially if they get mad. Howard Stern is a good example from the traditional media of what happens when one of the Do Me in the Keister types gets serious. Stern had a loyal audience and the novelty of his expression caused a lot of people to listen. It cost him his job but I think he was right.

FT
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From:saurons_truss
Date:October 14th, 2004 01:35 am (UTC)

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No, there are great bloggers everywhere. You're right. I spoke above not only of the pioneers, but those who follow in that vein.

Bloggers in other counties are a valuable resource, especially in strife torn areas. I'd like to see more of that. Send me some pointers.

One last, minor thing: Howard Stern didn't lose his job by a long shot. A radio station conglomerate, Clear Channel, stopped carrying him on six of their stations many months ago after the Janet Jackson fiasco. He stayed on in dozens of others... and the cities where he was discontinued (San Diego being one) had other radio stations pick his show back up for a net loss of zero.

Lately he's announced he'll be leaving broadcast radio in 15 months. Far from being driven out, the reason he's leaving is an unbelievably lucrative 500 million dollar contract (over five years) from satellite radio (uncensored). He often complains about the censorship he's subjected to,turning his rants against the draconian FCC into popular bits. He may not have that hurdle much longer... and in so doing just might change the face of radio.
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From:seethrumind
Date:October 14th, 2004 05:13 am (UTC)

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::Laughing:: You fact-checked my ass. Good for you. I feel better. Slovenly but better.

I wonder how long before factcheck becomes a word? :)

Ok, foreign blogs. I used to be systematic in my approach to blogs, but now I'm disorganized and SLOVENLY. A lot of foreign bloggers seem to be young ones, students and people of privilege. Still it's a view one could never gain from regular media. Oh, the stories. I remember an Iraqi blogger corresponding with a soldier. His blog is gone now too.

Here's a couple of Iraqi blogs from an old list I had, but they are blogs in a diary sense Bill. They are civilians and their blogs may not be pleasant for you to read.

Salam Pax --->> http://dearraed.blogspot.com/

Baghdad Burning --->>> http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/

http://afamilyinbaghdad.blogspot.com/

Tomorrow, I'll look up a blog search engine for you. I think that's how I started. A best of blog google search will always turn up a few new ones. I also look for links within the blogs. That can be a seal of approval from a good blogger.


FT

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From:seethrumind
Date:October 14th, 2004 05:21 am (UTC)

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Oh and good for Howard. I'm glad he didn't take a financial hit. I've heard a mention of this satellite radio service but I need to learn more about it. A subscription service of some kind. Reason knows, radio is ready for change. :-)

And I was remembering Bill, a year or so ago on this very day, we shared fellowship. Praise Ringers.

FT
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From:saurons_truss
Date:October 14th, 2004 05:32 am (UTC)

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Weirdly enough I fact-checked nothing of your post. All the Howard Data came from the top of my head. I listen to him while driving to work in the morning. As a force for change and freedom of speech I see him as a leader... as unsavory as many people find him.

Even if I didn't enjoy listening to him or agree with him I would still posit the utilitarian view in his defense.

Thanks for the links. Our phone con is overdue, isn't it? tell me when and I'll call.

Or maybe I'll just surprise you...
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From:seethrumind
Date:October 14th, 2004 06:14 pm (UTC)

Surprises

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I like surprises but surprises anytime after 2:00 PDT are best. :-)

FT
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